User talk:Hankvi Guidza

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Template Edits

I see that recently you’ve been adding the strong parameter to the monster infobox template calls. I also noticed that you’re removing the spaces that are present around those parameters. I’m sure those spaces look funny on mobile or when the font isn’t monospaced, but they’re there to align the parameters of the template call so that it’s easier to read/edit. Ie:

 
{{monster
|image=MonstrousAppetite.jpg
|caption=''This is a caption''
|latin=Latin Latin 
|description=Very long description of monster here
|class=Humanoid
|habitat=Everywhere
|strong=y
}}

Versus

 
{{monster
| image       = MonstrousAppetite.jpg
| caption     = ''This is a caption''
| latin       = Latin Latin 
| description = Very long description of monster here
| class       = Humanoid
| habitat     = Everywhere
| strong      = y
}}

The spaces are present so people with no experience with wiki markup know what each parameter is and what’s each value is (or at least help with that). Ie: to make pages more inviting to inexperienced editors.

Even without monospacing, the latter is easier to read.

So, I’m not sure if you think the spaces are an error or something, but they’re not.

Annoyingly, even with the editor’s font is set to “monospaced” in the preferences, on the mobile skin, that setting is just ignored for some reason.

Anyway, thank you for your edits, I just noticed you were removing the alignment spaces, so I wanted to say something. I’m not going to tell you to stop (although I’d like it if you did), I just wanted to point that out.

Emptysora (talk) 01:40, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

On a similar note, you also don’t have to change “yes” to “y” as you did here. They both result in the same exact thing, and spelling the word out is more intuitive for inexperienced editors than just abbreviating it. Though, this one doesn’t matter as much since it’s not like the “strong” parameter is changed often like “description” or “caption” would. I’m just being picky though.
Emptysora (talk) 01:58, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
First off, hello! I've seen the countless edits you made and even the discussions of fixing various issues (like Godville redirects). Myself I'm rather somewhat versed in editing and maintaining wikis (well Wikia/FANDOM ones to be specific) and some light parser coding, but nowhere near your level of, say, name comparisons in the DB.
About the template edits, I noticed that in some articles, some parameters were spaced apart while some weren't, so I had to "optimize" so it wouldn't look messy. Along with pitiful excuses like OCD, from my own experience I had some issues with trailing spaces in single-line tables at FANDOM, so I kind of had a stigmata of minimizing spaces since. I do prefer the desktop interface, but unless I have no choice, I'll try not to fiddle with the spaces.
Also, I knew that anything will make the parameter work, so I guess my bad on that one. Hankvi Guidza (talk) 15:16, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
You’re fine~! I have some OCD habits too. I wasn’t criticizing you. I just thought since they were mobile edits, you weren’t able to see from the editor why those were spaced that way. You can edit them if you have to, and it’s not a problem if they’re slightly messed up, I just didn’t want us to start an edit war of y vs yes and the spacing.
As for why only some are and some aren’t? It’s because I only changed those templates if they were in Stubs so far. (Fixing them rest is on my to do, literally first item)
I’ll say it again, thanks for all of your edits. :)
Emptysora (talk) 20:15, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
I agree though, I have had issues with spaces in tables and templates, anything we can do to minimize that would certainly reduce the risk of error. That’s why the spaces are *before* the equal sign. Or rather, why I don’t mind doing that. MW trims parameter names after all.
For the y vs yes. You can honestly put whatever you want, as people will still intuitively understand “y” means yes. It’s just easier/quicker when it’s spelled out as you don’t even have to think about anything.
Most of my general edits are intended it make it much easier for inexperienced editors and writers to modify the pages, hence the spacing, spelling out yes, stub parameters, so on. Anything that could become a problem, I’d like to resolve BEFORE it becomes one (if possible). We have over 7,000 red links, anything that helps to reduce that number or improve the wiki is fair game in my books.
Emptysora (talk) 20:22, 22 November 2019 (UTC)