Template talk:Guild link

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Feedback requested on change to Template:Guild link

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Hello Godwikians!

I have made a small experimental improvement to how {{Guild link}} works.

If you add |stats=yes to your {{Guild link}}, it will generate with an icon that's a neat and tidy link to your guild stats. In other words:

{{Guild link|Aeter|stats=yes}}

will make:

⚜️ Aeter 📈

I'd love it if you gave it a try and let me know what you think! In particular:

  • Is the spacing bad/ugly/difficult on touch screens?
  • Is the emoji too large, or should it be replaced with a simpler text link (á la {{God|extended=yes}}), i.e. GodDjonni (U • C • T) 
  • Is it just not a good idea?

No answers are wrong, so please say what you think. I spent approximately 0 minutes of thought on it, so it's guaranteed to need more work, and I won't take anything personally. -- Djonni (talk) 15:55, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

A couple of alternatives I knocked together for comparison.
First alternative (current version):

⚜️ Aeter 📈

Second, smaller emoji:

⚜️ Aeter 📈

Third, which is really implementing an |extended=yes for {{Guild link}}:

⚜️ Aeter (S • W • T)

(Those are: (Stats page • Wiki page • Talk page))
Just spitballing ideas, suggestions for other alternatives are welcome. -- Djonni (talk) 17:51, 26 July 2019 (UTC)


Nice idea, I personally prefer the last one as it makes it very similar to the Gods one. --WardPhoenix (talk) 18:36, 26 July 2019 (UTC)


I thinks it's a good idea and like WardPhoenix, I prefer the last one. It's more "beautiful" than the emoji. --Elantien (talk) 11:32, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for the feedback guys. From the feedback, and after long, deep meditation,[lie 1] I decided to implement both |stats= and |extended=. Reasoning is:
  • The use case which actually triggered me to consider this was at the Aeter guild page, and it makes sense. It's a good, simple way to elegantly include a link to the guild stats page, and it's already in use there, and I think it looks good in this use case. However, I've implemented it in such a way that including |plain=yes and |stats=yes replaces the icon with a simple (S). In this use case, it really makes no sense to include links to the guild wiki page (as it is, in fact, currently on the guild wiki page), and the guild talk page, unless explicitly desired (by using |extended=yes)
  • I agree that it makes sense, and is aesthetically nice, to mimic the formatting of {{God|extended=yes}}. So I did that too, for use cases (like, say, for example, a Pantheon of Wikidness) where those additional links would be nice to have. |extended= also conforms to the same |plain=yes formatting switches as implemented in {{God|extended=yes|plain=yes}}
So, for clarity:
{{Guild link|Aeter|stats=yes}} ⚜️ Aeter 📈
{{Guild link|Aeter|extended=yes}} ⚜️ Aeter  (S • W • T) 
{{Guild link|Aeter|stats=yes|plain=yes}} Aeter (S)
{{Guild link|Aeter|extended=yes|plain=yes}} Aeter  (S • W • T) 
Still TODO: update the docs, and add tooltip title="" text to the links (as is done in {{God}}). Feedback first, though, in case anyone objects or has thoughts! -- Djonni (talk) 15:03, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

Footnotes

  1. Three cups of coffee
Well, you're the one making it. So it's up to you to know if you want to add additional lines (I don't use this template much and I don't see why i'd use the one with the emoji but I guess it's better to please everyone by having both) -- WardPhoenix (talk) 21:42, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

New default

So, I can't think of any time when having the default Pantheon of Unity is useful. Not to mention that since there isn't actually any such guild, the link will always be broken. However, nor do I think that any one guild should be singled out as the default for this. But I think it makes more sense to have the default value for this template be {{PAGENAME}}, the magic word that turns into whatever the name of the current page is (without namespace, so even though this page is called "Template talk:Guild link," the {{PAGENAME}} value is "Guild link".)

So then, if a guild wants to use this on their page, they can simply do {{Guild link|extended = yes}}, or whatever. And if you aren't sure whether a page is for a guild or not, you can just type {{Guild link}}, preview, and follow the link. (That trick already works with {{Delete guild}}, that's what those links on the template are there for.)

If nobody objects or has another option to consider, I'll make the change soon. -- Djonni (talk) 19:36, 24 November 2019 (UTC)