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6,421 bytes added, 21:35, 14 October 2018
Two questions, two suggestions: new section
:::: No apology necessary, thanks for understanding. Up to you on the rename, really. If you do Move it (which you can do from the More actions menu), a redirect will be automatically created from the old name, so technically it'll exist at ''both'' names unless a new (official?) [[Pantheon of Crosswordery]] article is created to replace the redirect. -- [[User:FeRDNYC|FeRDNYC]] ([[User talk:FeRDNYC|talk]]) 20:22, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
 
== Two questions, two suggestions ==
 
I had further thoughts/questions about two things, related to the article content:
====1: The page formatting====
It's... how can I put this delicately... a horror show? 😉
 
It looks like you're using the [[Omnibus List]] as a template? That's basically the ''worst'' possible example, since it combines the worst aspects of HTML and Wiki features to create a Frankenstein's Article formatting that ends up being messy everywhere, but especially on mobile where you end up having to swipe left and right to read the whole page.
 
Some of the data (specifically, the daily rankings) would also ''benefit'' from a tabular format, instead of being just four separate lists that happen to appear side by side. If you moved that information into a single table of its own, you could add a row in one place, rather than having to add items to the end of four different lists.
 
I'd suggest replacing everything to the right of the Pantheon list with a separate daily rankings wikitable, like so:
 
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|+Daily Top Rankings
|-
! First !! Second !! Third !! Date
|-
|[https://godvillegame.com/gods/Woody%20Pecker Woody Pecker]
|[https://godvillegame.com/gods/Dan%20Maku Dan Maku]
|[https://godvillegame.com/gods/Kevin-G93 Kevin-g93]
|[https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/459970231566073858/497913654482829312/image0.png?width=421&height=433 October 4, 2018]
|-
|[https://godvillegame.com/gods/Kevin-G93 Kevin-g93]
|[https://godvillegame.com/gods/Cham%20Almighty Cham Almighty]
|[https://godvillegame.com/gods/Woody%20Pecker Woody Pecker]
|[https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/459970231566073858/497914230180282380/image0.png?width=254&height=301 October 5, 2018]
|-
|[https://godvillegame.com/gods/Kevin-G93 Kevin-g93]
|[https://godvillegame.com/gods/Cassia%20Rainsonne Cassia Rainsonne]
|[https://godvillegame.com/gods/Cham%20Almighty Cham Almighty]
|[https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/459970314307108865/498255826511855617/image0.png October 6, 2018]
|-
|[https://godvillegame.com/gods/Dan%20Maku Dan Maku]
|[https://godvillegame.com/gods/Cassia%20Rainsonne Cassia Rainsonne]
|[https://godvillegame.com/gods/Kevin-G93 Kevin-g93]
|[https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/459970314307108865/498619271425818624/image0.png October 7, 2018]
|-
|[https://godvillegame.com/gods/The%20Great%20Jimsky The Great Jimsky]
|[https://godvillegame.com/gods/Cham%20Almighty Cham Almighty]
|[https://godvillegame.com/gods/Woody%20Pecker Woody Pecker]
|[https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/459970314307108865/498991084123455500/image0.png October 8, 2018]
|-
|[https://godvillegame.com/gods/Kevin-G93 Kevin-g93]
|[https://godvillegame.com/gods/Cham%20Almighty Cham Almighty]
|[https://godvillegame.com/gods/Beausoleil Beausoleil]
|[https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/459970314307108865/499354514894094346/image0.png?width=348&height=301 October 9, 2018]
|-
|[https://godvillegame.com/gods/Kevin-G93 Kevin-g93]
|[https://godvillegame.com/gods/Woody%20Pecker Woody Pecker]
|[https://godvillegame.com/gods/Goddygoddy Goddygoddy]
|[https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/459970314307108865/499713319763050496/image0.png October 10, 2018]
|-
|[https://godvillegame.com/gods/Dan%20Maku Dan Maku]
|[https://godvillegame.com/gods/Kevin-g93 Kevin-g93]
|[https://godvillegame.com/gods/Kazehime Kazehime]
|[https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/431305701021974539/500076933032443919/image0.png October 11, 2018]
|-
|[https://godvillegame.com/gods/Wawajabba Wawajabba]
|[https://godvillegame.com/gods/Kevin-g93 Kevin-g93]
|[https://godvillegame.com/gods/Beausoleil Beausoleil]
|[https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/459970314307108865/500473832528805889/image0.png October 12. 2018]
|-
|[https://godvillegame.com/gods/Woody%20Pecker Woody Pecker]
|[https://godvillegame.com/gods/Cassia%20Rainsonne Cassia Rainsonne]
|[https://godvillegame.com/gods/Cham%20Almighty Cham Almighty]
|[https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/479824788047659019/500791759949791232/image0.png October 13, 2018]
|-
|}
 
You can see the code for the whole table if you Edit the page, but basically the headers look like this:
 
<pre style="margin-left: 1em;white-space:pre;"><nowiki>
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|+Daily Top Rankings
|-
! First !! Second !! Third !! Date
</nowiki></pre>
 
and each row looks like this:
 
<pre style="margin-left: 1em;white-space:pre;overflow-x:scroll"><nowiki>
|-
|[https://godvillegame.com/gods/Woody%20Pecker Woody Pecker]
|[https://godvillegame.com/gods/Cassia%20Rainsonne Cassia Rainsonne]
|[https://godvillegame.com/gods/Cham%20Almighty Cham Almighty]
|[https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/479824788047659019/500791759949791232/image0.png October 13, 2018]
</nowiki></pre>
 
(I might also suggest moving the '''Date''' column to be ''first'', instead of last, but that's a separate issue.)
 
If you wanted to do things that way, I'd suggest moving the rankings table '''before''' the Pantheon listing, since it's the more important of the two. Then you can get rid of the <code><nowiki><table></nowiki></code> tags entirely, and the Pantheon can come after as a simple list. It can also be made collapsible (or collapsible after a certain point), to avoid displaying such a long article by default.
 
====2: The rankings====
Regarding the rankings themselves, I know originally when you set up the pantheon only the first three to solve the crossword received rankings. But now that it's expanded so that everyone who solves the crossword gets ranked, how do you ensure that you count ''everyone''? The list of solvers is cleared when a new crossword is posted, so doesn't the list you have depend on when you capture the list? In theory, if you get the list of crossword-solvers at, say, three hours before the new issue, then anyone who solves after that won't be counted.
 
Because of that, and because it's unreasonable to expect that you'd camp out and watch the crossword solvers list until the moment it's cleared every day, it might make sense to limit rankings/points to only the first 10, or 20, or 30 people who solve it each day. That way, you can stop at that point and not have to worry about missing anyone who solves after.
 
Just a thought, since it seems more fair to set a cutoff than to risk missing some people based on timing. -- [[User:FeRDNYC|FeRDNYC]] ([[User talk:FeRDNYC|talk]]) 21:35, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
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