Ideabox

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For a detailed list of the variables used in the ideabox, see Ideabox variables.
Rare picture of a God submitting an idea in the Ideabox.

The Ideabox is the entire system used to submit, vote on, enhance, track, and review ideas of suggested changes submitted to Godville. There, gods can submit ideas for new monsters, diary entries, artifacts, and more. After submission, other gods vote on the submission and the submitting god can track the votes in favor of and against adding the idea to Godville. Later, gods who have proved themselves worthy, can enhance some of the ideas. Eventually, if an idea is approved by the Godville Administrator, the submitting god will receive Idea Quality points (known as IQ points).

History

Godville Administrator crawling under the ideas.

The ideabox has long and detailed history. At first, the Godville Administrator thought up and wrote every idea in Godville. After about seventeen minutes, he ran out of ideas. He began pondering, how can I get new ideas? The answer: “let's outsource this!” But he didn't have any money, so he thought, let's outsource the creativity to the people who play the game. And so, the “Have an idea?” form was born.

The Godville Administrator quickly became inundated with ideas; so many he couldn't even see his own eyelids.

He thought, “I really need someone to sort out the good ideas from the bad,” and on June 4, 2010[1], he opened the Ideabox. Today, the Ideabox allows players to submit ideas for the game, to sort out the good from the bad, and then brag about how they submitted something.

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It’s been a while since we started to accept various ideas using the “Have an idea?” form. We’ve already got quite a lot of them; too many to handle them all on our own, so today we are opening the ideabox – the place where everyone can see new monsters, artifacts and diary phrases submitted by others and vote for them. Votes are important – highly ranked items are more likely to be added. But that does not mean that all high-ranked items will be added (or that low-rank items will be rejected) automatically – we’re still going to review them, filtering out ones that don’t fit into the current setting. The Ideabox also has a section where you can see how your ideas were voted by others and if they’ve been accepted by us (highlighted with the blue color). A link to the idea box [sic] will appear in the menu once your hero reaches level 12.
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Godville Blog, post 3: Vox Populi,, June 4, 2010

Changes and improvements were then made several times through Godville history, resulting in the Ideabox as it exists today, described here.

Ideabox (Feedback and Submissions)

Ideabox Categories
Category Vote Threshold Length Variables ER Phrase Types
Diary 60% Long Yes Yes
Earthly News 50% 4–100 Yes Yes
Duels 40% Long Yes Yes
Dungeons 40% Long Yes Yes
Sail 40% Long Yes Yes
Quests 40% 4–300[N 1] Limited[N 2] No[N 3]
Monsters 30% 4–25[N 4] No No[N 5]
Artifacts 40% 4–40 No No[N 6]
Equipment 40% 4–30 No No[N 7]
Newspaper 40% Long Yes Yes
Notes
  1. Quest ending field has max length 300 characters.
  2. Only available variable is %town_name%, for guild mini-quests only.
  3. ER comments may suggest specific quest types, such as epic or mini.
  4. Monster artifact field has max length 40 characters.
  5. ER comments may suggest specific monster types, such as boss or beastie.
  6. ER comments may suggest specific artifact types, such as healing or activatable. Non-standard articles may be optionally selected if required.
  7. ER editors may optionally change the equipment type (e.g., body, legs, talisman, etc).
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The Ideabox (Submissions)

Ideas are submitted through the Ideabox (Submissions). The Ideabox (submission) is located in the lower left corner of the hero page on www.godvillegame.com, and in the menu screen on the app under the Ideas section labeled "Feedback (submissions)."

Gods can submit the following types of feedback: other, to fix a bug, an awesome idea, a new diary phrase, an earthly news, a phrase for a duel, a new monster, a phrase for dungeon, a phrase for sailing, a new artifact, a new quest, a new piece of equipment, and news for the newspaper. All feedback types except "to fix a bug", "an awesome idea", and "other" will be visible in the Ideabox (voting) section. "An awesome idea" can include suggestion for things like a new pantheon or a new game mechanic.

Gods are strongly encouraged to review the Ideabox survival guide before submitting ideas, unless, of course, "surviving" is not on a god's priority list.

Idea Length

The length of submitted ideas have hard limits in each Ideabox category. Even in categories with large character limits, brevity is strongly encouraged.

Short-Form Ideas

The short-form ideabox categories have hard limits on the idea's character length.

  • Monsters: Minimum of 4, maximum of 25. Monster artifacts no longer than 40.
  • Artifacts: Minimum of 4, maximum of 40.
  • Equipment: Minimum of 4, maximum of 30.
  • Earthly News: Minimum of 4, maximum of 100.
  • Quest: Minimum of 4, maximum of 300. Quest ending no longer than 300.

Long-Form Ideas

The long-form ideabox categories have larger limits. Many Ideabox submitters may not realise, though, that ER editors also see warnings when ideas pass certain length limits. Succinct, snappy writing is very strongly preferred for game content.

Length warnings appear for ER editors for Diary, Duel, Dungeon, and Sail categories:

  • Longish warning at 120 characters or more: Can it be re-written shorter? (length {count}).
  • Long warning at 200 characters or more: Text needs to be shortened (length - {count}).
  • Too long warning at 300 characters or more: Text should be shortened (length - {count}).

The Newspaper and the non-voting Ideabox sections have large limits to their content, but submitters are still advised to be as succinct as possible if you want your ideas to be read and considered.

  • Newspaper: Minimum of 4, maximum of 2000.
  • Awesome Idea: Minimum of 4, maximum of 4000.
  • Bug Report: Minimum of 4, maximum of 4000.
  • Other: Minimum of 4, maximum of 2000.

Variables For Submissions

Main page: Ideabox variables.

If you want to include the heroine or hero's name, pet's name or other text that changes depending on circumstances, you use one of the available variables. Variables are enclosed in percent signs (e.g., %variable%) and the game will fill in the correct string of text when it encounters one. For example, the current monster being fought will appear in place of %monster%. A full and detailed list is available, including information specifically for ER editors, but here you will find a shorter list and explanation of just the most useful variables.

Hero Details

  • %hero_name% — heroine's name
  • %hero_guild% — name of the heroine's guild
  • %pet_name% — the name of the heroine's pet (/pn)
  • %pet_class% — the species of the heroine's pet (/pc)
  • %random_friend% — the name of some friend-heroine nearby (/rf)
  • %rg% — random generic name of the goddess, e.g. "Almighty" or "Great One" (/rg)

Gender Details

  • {his|her} — hero or heroine gender variation (“The mayor said I looked like a strapping {lad|lass}.”)
  • {his||her} — the gender variation of a second hero or heroine.
Depending on context, the second hero{||ine} is the %defender%, or the %random_friend% or %random_hero% in the entry. If no second heroine is specified, the gender will be decided at random.
  • {his|||her} — god or goddess gender variation (“I'm cold, my {Lord|||Lady}!”)
  • {his||||her} — gender variation of the god or goddess of the second hero{||ine} in the entry.

Things Around the Hero

  • %current_quest% — the name of the current quest (/cq)
  • %current_town% — the name of the town where the heroine is now (/ct)
  • %town_name% — on arrival to town (“%town_name% is nearby. Very nice, I need a rest.”) or the town granting a guild mini-quest (/tn)
  • %nearby_town% — the name of a town near the heroine
  • %monster% — the monster that the heroine is currently interacting with
  • %gold% — gold coins spent/gained by the heroine
  • %god_phrase% — voice from a goddess, either the heroine's or another
  • %some_tavern% — the name of a random tavern
  • %some_territory% — the name of some random location
  • %artifact% — artifact name with the appropriate article (“Found %artifact% under a pile of dirty clothes!”)
  • %artifact_base% — artifact name without an article (“Broke my %artifact_base%.”)

Miscellaneous Variables

  • %random_guild% — name of a random guild
  • %random_town% — the name of some random town
  • %random_hero% — the name of some random heroine or hero nearby
  • %random_monster% — the name of some random monster
  • %a_random_monster% — a random monster with the correct article
  • %quest% — on getting a new quest, the quest the heroine is being given
  • %skill% — the skill being used in the entry

If you Need a Variable That Doesn't Exist

  • %v% — a generic placeholder variable for something that is not normally available for the entry (make sure to describe what your variable does in the comment section)

Where Variables Don't Work

None of these variables will work in entries for monsters, artifacts, or equipment. Quest special ending entries can only take hero{|ine} and god{|||dess} gender inflections. Guild mini-quests can use %town_name% for the town granting the quest, but otherwise quest names cannot use any variables.

Submitting Dungeon Phrases

Dungeon submissions are different in the way you need to submit them and how they appear in the game. The most common dungeon entries are made up from 3 different phrases.

  • Heroes move to
  • Room description
  • Available directions

Take a look at the Ideabox survival guide for a detailed explanation of the anatomy of dungeon descriptions.

The right way to submit a dungeon phrase is to only submit one of these instead of multiple. Here are some examples.

Heroes move to:

The heroes move %dir%.

Room description:

This room doesn't look interesting at all. The heroes submit it as Questionable Content.

Available directions:

There is no way out of this room, except for %dir%.

Here is an example of how you shouldn't submit a dungeon phrase.

The heroes move %dir% and enter a room made out of the bones of heroes.

As you can see, this phrase is made out of both a "heroes move to" and a "room description". You need to avoid this in order to submit dungeon phrases correctly. Submissions which include more than one part cannot be used, no matter how good they are.

Submitting Sail Phrases

Like dungeons, sail phrases are different to others in the game. Sail steps can have quite a few phrases in them, which are usually one of:

  • A beastie appearing on the map
  • The result of a sailor searching an island or lighthouse
  • The result of a battle (between sailor and beastie, or between two sailors)
  • The end of a sailor's sail (safely or by mishap)

Rather than relying on many variables to give information, sail phrases are written to be very specific for their use. A thorough read of the sailing page (and its further reading links) may give ideabox submitters without an ark of their own a clearer picture of sailing entries and how they work.

Submitting Newspaper Phrases

Main page: Godville Times.

The contents of the Godville Times are submitted into the Ideabox much like any other content, and are now available to be voted on by players as well as seen and improved by ER editors.[2] Ideas for entirely new sections or major changes should be submitted as "awesome ideas".

Newspaper idea submissions also need to specify what section of the newspaper they're intended for. This might be for almost any named section of the Times, with the exception of "Game News" and "Forum News", which are generated from the Godville Blog and Forums respectively, and the Bingo, Crossword, "Market Quotes" and "Guild popularity in..." sections, which are generated by the game. Along with the named sections, there are two additional categories for which you can submit ideas. The names used for these first two categories differ between players, but use any wording from here and your intention will be understood.

Header
These are the three short phrases that appear under the words Godville Times in the paper's header each day. Submissions must be very short, and support no variables.
Footnote
These are the block of sentences that appear in the paper's footer. Good submissions for this section are single short sentences.
Forecast
Phrases can be submitted for any of the possible Daily Forecast forecasts. Ideas for new forecast types should be submitted as "Awesome ideas".
Ideabox News
Short and sweet phrases for one of the three things which appear here daily. Use %v% for the number in the first phrase, and %god_name% for the god name in the others.
Broken News and Ads
These sections often use the %random_thing% and %some_thing% variables to add variety and reduce repetition. They have no game impact, and can get away with saying pretty much anything funny.
Wanted Monster
Ideas for the text appearing under the Wanted section. Text for this section must include one of %mod_name% or %a_mod_name%, and generally also includes %mod_reward.
Wanted Artifact
Ideas for the text appearing under the Buy and Sell section, highlighting artifacts that are highly sought after today. Text for this section must contain either the %aod_name% or %an_aod_name% variables, and generally also includes %aod_reward%. Since hero-traders can be featured here, %hero_name% and %shop_name% (or similar) can be used for hero-trader "Buy and Sell" phrases. (Note: At time of writing, these variables are not supported in ER, and must be replaced with %v%.)
Famous Heroes and Guild Spotlight
Ideas can be submitted for these sections for the two forms of phrase used. One form is the multi-sentence description of the hero/guild and its game features (pantheon position, controlling god, number of members, etc). Use dummy variables for clarity. (See first example.) The second phrase type is the funny description at the end, usually a single sentence. Some variables (as well as {him|her} and {him|||her} gender inflections) are supported here. (See second example.)
First example
Guild Spotlight (Start): %guild_name% is a bunch of heroes and heroines occupying %position% place in the pantheon of %pantheon%. Rumor says there are about %member_count% of them. Veterans in this guild call themselves “%high_rank_title%”. All time favorite of this guild is %guild_totem%.

Second example
Famous Heroes: H{is|er} dream is to master the “%random_skill%” skill and then offer lessons in exchange for gold bricks.
Other

Any other content. This category is used for submissions for the Front Page. Though the content for these section is drawn from the GodWiki, players can submit ideas for what should be featured, along with the summary text to display from the article.

Ideabox (Voting)

Feel free to complain if one of your ideas isn't accepted...

The main portion of the Ideabox is split into two sections: New Content and Discussion.

New Content

The New Content section of the Ideabox (Voting) proudly presents players' ideas that the Godville Administrator has received through the Ideabox (Submission). Votes by Gods help process new items faster. If a god thinks that an idea is appropriate, witty, and will make Godville better, the god should vote it up by clicking the + symbol. If a god believes the idea should not be added to the game, the god should vote it down by pressing the - symbol. If an idea is very similar to something that is already in the game, a god should vote it as a "dupe." Gods should not pay attention to typos and minor errors because the Godville Administrator will fix those later if the idea gets accepted.

There are ten types of new ideabox (voting) content:

  • Diary: This section includes diary phrases (written in first person and past tense; must be appropriate for the hero's intelligence).
  • Earthly news: This section includes various pieces of earthly news. (These should be descriptions of what has occurred to the hero from a third person point of view, ending in "...")
  • Duels: These are proposed phrases to be displayed in skirmishes and arena duels between heroes and fights with boss monsters (written in third person).
  • Dungeons: Proposed phrases for dungeons, typically consisting of "heroes move to", "room description", "hints", and "available exits" entries (written in third person in present tense).
  • Sail: Sail phrases, most commonly consisting of island, hint, or beastie appearance descriptions (written in third person and present tense).
  • Quests: Here you can see the list of suggested quests for heroes. Tasks shouldn't be too general or too difficult to accomplish, nor should they be closely related to the real world. Should not use any form of second person ("you, your" etc).
  • Monsters: This section has new monsters that could inhabit Godville. Names should be singular, gender-neutral, original and witty.
  • Artifacts: Various amusing artifacts and trophies that heroes may punch out of the monsters someday. Items should be mostly useless, but funny and material enough for heroes to keep them.
  • Equipment: Here you can see newly proposed equipment and outfits for heroes.
  • Newspaper: Here you can see newly proposed content for the Godville Times.

Other

There are two other sections of the ideabox that do not include voting.

  • My Ingenious Pieces: Here, you may view all your submitted ideas and their respective number of yes, no, ER, and dupe votes. Accepted ideas that have been added to the game are highlighted in blue and rejected ideas are highlighted in red. If the idea is not highlighted at all, it is still waiting to be reviewed by an admin. If your idea was rejected and you don't think its true value was appreciated, explain it in this forum topic.
  • Approved: This is the full list of your ingenious ideas, corrections and other stuff approved by the developers.

The Voting Process

Once an idea is submitted, it will be added to the voting queue. At every ten minute interval, newly submitted ideas will appear in the ideabox. Gods cannot vote on their own ideas.

In the ideabox, gods may vote in one of four ways by clicking:

  • The blue + (plus sign) to vote it up. This means that a god believes the proposed idea or change should be incorporated into the game.
  • The red - (minus sign) to vote against it. This means that a god believes the proposed idea or change should not be incorporated into the game.
  • The dupe button to indicate that it's a duplicate of content that is already in the game.
  • The flag to the right of the idea to flag it as inappropriate content (requires an IQ of at least 10).

Note: the introduction of the "dupe" and "flag" options is designed to provide authors better feedback, so that they have a better idea as to why an idea was voted down.[3]

Voting starts with the first-tier community voting process. People may vote on a certain idea for a limited amount of time. This voting session ends once 24 hours have passed since the idea has entered the queue. Depending on the type of idea, if it gets a certain percentage of votes it gets moved into the Enhancement Room (ER) – a special place where designated community members are able to review it more carefully and possibly enhance it by adding some finishing touches (see below for the detailed process). ER voting and enhancement also lasts 24 hours. After that, each idea which went through ER is added to the review queue to eventually be reviewed by an admin, regardless of its final number of yes and no votes. If it is added to the game, you will gain IQ points, and a contribution point in the Pantheon of gratitude.

The Enhancement Room (ER)

Main page: Enhancement Room.

The ER is a special place for proven Godville community members to tweak and enhance the most promising content submissions that have passed through the first round of voting. It is aimed at drastically shortening the time required to get good and great ideas into the game. Hopefully, further careful reviews and the ability to tweak ideas into a ready-to-add form will shorten the review queue and speed up the whole process for both players and authors![4]

ER is thus:

  • a tool for the active Godville community members to speed up the ideas review process
  • a way to pick up the best gems among Ideabox submissions
  • a way to tweak good and nearly good ideas into really great ones
  • a way to convert promising submissions into ready-for-the-game form

ER process

If an idea gets enough upvotes (60% for diary, 50% for earthly news, 30% for monsters, 40% for other) in the first-tier community voting process, it gets moved into the ER. Each ER review lasts 24 hours. During the process each player eligible for ER access can do the following:

  • Mark an idea as “ready” for the game – this should be used if the idea (or its variant) is already awesome and should be added into the game in its current form without any further changes (make sure to read the confirmation popup message with examples of how this submission will actually look in the game).
  • Select a news type for Earthly news ideas or a phrase type for Diary, Duels, or Dungeons ideas.
  • Submit a correction for an idea – this should be used only if the original idea is good enough, but could be made even better with a slight modification.
  • Submit a comment on an idea (with or without a correction) – ER reviewers are able to add comments to ideas which, as with all activity in the Ideabox and ER, will be anonymous. Sometimes several comments will be left by reviewers, often in conversation or debate. These comments can at times be very helpful, informative, or complimentary, but reviewers are reminded than anything in ER is publicly viewable by any player, including the submitter, and both ideas and other editors should be treated politely and respectfully, even when disagreeing.
  • Re-cast your vote for an alternate variant – each player is allowed to cast only one vote per an idea and all its corrections, so if someone offers a better version, your vote can be moved the other variant.
  • If an idea is not interesting or not worth improving, it’s better to just ignore it. It will disappear automatically 24 hours after reaching the ER.

What happens after ER?

After 24 hours of ER review, an idea is moved to idea purgatory (also known as the review queue), where it will wait for the final decision from the Godville devs. Remember that the devs have the final say — an idea could have an amazing ratio of yes/no votes, a high number of ER votes, etc and still not appeal to the developers. Or it could have barely squeaked by into ER and get into the game. Eventually, the devs will either approve or reject the idea, at which point this will be reflected in both your ingenious ideas and approved submissions (if any were in fact approved).

Admin Idea Review Process

Q: I sent a couple of good ideas, but none of them were put into the game! Why?

We are getting a LOT of ideas every day. Actually, it is way more than we can read. So approving and adding ideas into the game can take a while – sometimes weeks or even months. Please be patient.

Also it is worth noting that having an idea with lots of “yes” votes doesn’t guarantee that it will be added for sure. One of the main purpose of votes in the ideabox is to sort out all “bad” and “average” ideas. Remaining “good” ideas will undergo a deep “investigation”, after which “awesome” ideas that fit into our setting will find their way into the game.

Q: I found the idea I submitted some time ago in the game, but I wasn't rewarded with the gratitude points. Why not?

Ideas are submitted by many people and sometimes the same ideas are submitted more than once. We can’t always warn players that an idea is a duplicate at submission time, so if you’ve seen your item in the game but didn’t get gratitude points for it, most likely your idea was a duplicate.

Note: If you submit an exact duplicate (punctuation, capitals and spelling all count) of either your own idea which was rejected or an idea which has already been voted upon, you will receive a message and your idea will not be submitted for voting. You will not lose an idea "point" for that day either.


Idea Quality Points (IQ points)

See also: IQ points

Each player has a certain number of IQ points which changes in response to their actions in the ideabox. Access to various features of the Ideabox is granted based on the number of points in the Idea Quality (IQ) meter. This number ought to (very subjectively) represent the quality of prior submissions and other game-content related activities of a player. The current value of the IQ points is displayed at the bottom of the Ideabox page.

Ideabox Access Levels

Various Ideabox features are available upon reaching a certain number of IQ points:

  • >= 600 points: ability to convert 250 IQ points to 10 gratitude points
  • >= 70 points: full access to the ER (submit new corrections and vote for existing ones)
  • >= 10 points: report offensive ideabox submissions (flag symbol at the right)
  • <= -4 points: submission limit is set to one idea per day
  • <= -10 points: normal voting rights for ideas are revoked
  • <= -15 points: ideabox is closed for new content submissions

How Do IQ Points Change?

  • +7 points to the author if his content idea (or its variant) gets approved and included into the game
  • +5 points to a reviewer who offered a correction that got the idea approved and added to game (author still gets his +7 points)
  • +1 point when a grammar correction is approved
  • -1 point to the author if an idea gets less than 2 upvotes in the first-tier voting process and its author has <= 0 IQ points (these authors are strongly advised to spend more time on their submissions in order to prevent them from falling off even deeper)
  • -7 points to the idea’s author if the idea was reported as offensive/inappropriate and this report was approved as a valid one (on the other hand, false reports may lead to a decrease of the IQ points for the reportee)
  • -5x points (x varies depending on the extremity of a case) to the offender, if the Ideabox or ER are used for reasons not directly related to improving content submissions (e.g. chat, flood, guild wars, etc). Unlike gratitude points, IQ points can and will be subtracted without prior notice if one tries to somehow game the system (e.g. by upvoting ideas based on their authors and not their content).

In the event that the Godville Administrators permanently disable a player's ideabox access in cases where that player's "behavior in the Ideabox causes more harm than good to the game (random or spammy voting to get praying bonus, etc)", their IQ points will be set to -20.[5]

Note: To establish a baseline, at the time of ER establishment, IQ points for all players were set based on their prior accomplishments (+7 points for every approved content idea, +1 point for every approved correction).

Uses of IQ points

There are certain other values which are computed from a player's IQ points.

Voting power

Each player's voting power (for community voting; doesn't apply for ER votes) is calculated as:

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However, voting power cannot exceed 3.

Idea submission quota

This quota sets the number of ideas you may submit in a 24 hour period. The daily idea submission limit is calculated as:

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Where:

  • P = IQ points
  • L = Level of hero

Pre-November 2011 submission quota

(After November 2011 this formula no longer applies, and is presented for comparison purposes only.)

Your individual quota is decided by a formula which is disclosed in the official FAQ of the Russian Godville. This is the formula:

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Where:

References

  1. Godville Blog, post 3: Vox populi announced the introduction of the Ideabox.
  2. Godville Blog, post 132: Contentful Update announced the introduction of Newspaper idea voting in February 2020.
  3. Godville Blog, post 50: Ideabox 2.0
  4. Godville Blog, post 50: Ideabox 2.0 announced the introduction of the Enhancement Room.
  5. Godville Forum topic 1601, post 1290553 by Godville


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