User talk:Djonni/Template sandbox

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This page has an archive for Usergod discussions.

Old and/or inactive discussions have been moved to the /Usergod subpage.

Commencing {{Hero}} rebuild

I'll say right now: I can't promise this will have my undivided attention. But nonetheless, it's overdue to start this.

Main goals:

  • Redesign and update the Hero infobox in line with other aesthetic and usability improvements to templates we've made in the last few years.
  • Support most (but, frankly, not all) parameters of the current Hero template.
  • Consistency with new {{Usergod}} template: if you know how to use one, you should know how to use the other. (See talk page archive at User talk:Djonni/Template sandbox/Usergod for archived discussions from the development of Usergod).
  • The new Hero template should be usable as a standalone infobox or as a subbox of another userspace infobox (at this time, that just means Usergod, as it's the only other userspace infobos to have had an overhaul).

The Hero template should be easier to overhaul than Usergod was: firstly, we've already learned a lot of lessons and settled on some design priorities, so we won't have to reinvent the wheel. Secondly, it's a simpler template with a simpler use-case, and has never been as widely used (nor as widely abused) as the classic Usergod was.

All testing, opinions, feedback, input, all of it, is welcome. While it's true that, at this moment in Godwiki history, I'm probably the only active wiki editor with the skills to do the actual coding, and I'm probably the most experienced person around right now when it comes to making the final design and executive decisions on it, my opinion must not be the only opinion that shapes such important wiki infrastructure. If I don't feel like I'm getting enough input and plurality of opinion, I'll abandon the overhaul until a time when Godwiki engagement is higher.

In other words: don't hold back, yeah? Your voice isn't important; it's required.

Notes for testers: As with all unstable templates, this will change without notice. If you'd like to use this experimental template on your main User or Hero page while in development, that's obviously fine, but it will break from time to time, leaving your page somehow messy. I'll do my best to inform you of such changes on your User talk: page, but can't promise that I'll always catch it.

An alternative to testing on your main page(s) is to use the Special:ExpandTemplates page to play around with it, or to use a sandbox page. A sandbox page is a subpage of one of your pages (typically your user page) where you muck about with drafts and tests. For example, the page holding this template under development (User:Djonni/Template sandbox) is a subpage of my user page.

To include this experimental template in a page, use the following wikicode: {{:User:Djonni/Template sandbox|Parameters here}}. Note the : full colon at the start — that's important.

Any questions or feedback are welcome here. As mentioned above, you may find it helpful to read the discussions we had around the Usergod template development process in the User talk:Djonni/Template sandbox/Usergod talk archive. You may also like to read some of the historical problems that the badly designed Hero and Usergod templates caused on the Template talk:Hero. (There are discussions and messages about these issues spread aaallll over the talk pages wiki-wide, but you probably get the idea by looking there.) -- Djonni (talk) 09:03, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

Testing... Testing... 1,2,3!

I am soooo excited to try out the new hero template as it progresses :) I am assuming that this is still the early stages of development because there is much missing, so I'll hold off on comments for a bit. Just wanted to give some encouragement though. --His portliness (talk) 23:47, 29 October 2020 (UTC)